Line of wind turbines on a hilltop

If you need a hearty dose of hope for where the climate is heading, check out this edition of the “Outrage + Optimism” podcast.

EDF’s president, Fred Krupp, has a frank — and uplifting — chat with the podcast’s co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac, key negotiators for the United Nations during the Paris Agreement.

They talk about big reasons for optimism, including President Biden’s recent climate summit, as he put world leaders on the spot to increase the pace of climate action and committed to an ambitious new U.S. target for cutting climate pollution.

“Hope is a verb with its sleeves rolled up,” Krupp says, acknowledging the tough work ahead. “We need to be hopeful, but we need to be working on it.”

Listen now to hear how we at EDF are rolling our sleeves up, working to build a satellite that can detect methane from space and supporting the launch of a game-changing $1 billion coalition to save tropical forests.

Listen to the “Outrage + Optimism” podcast